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Michael Huebner
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National Meeting agenda items

To All Rimfire Shooters
I hope you have all contacted your State delegates with your agenda items, so all things that you believe are wrong with rimfire can be discussed at the National meeting at Coffs Harbour if not before.
Here’s your chance

Regards
Michael

BigStick
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Rimfire

Rimfire is perfect as it is. I don't think there is anything I would change.

Kim

Michael Huebner
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Classic,

Classic,
So no HoF then. No other issues that need to be brought up.
So we won’t here anything during the year for at least 12 months
Great news
Cheers
Michael

BigStick
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Rimfire

No good holding a rimfire meeting at C/F nationals and then only being able to deal through a delegate. You will have it your way regardless so I will not say anything except, I love rimfire.
HoF is a recognition of excellence but as usual the rimfire gets different rules to the almighty C/F. I will leave it up to other R/F shooters to organise a better deal with HoF
I'll try to compare the cf rf numbers this year to determine which one gets the greatest numbers at major comps.
My gut feeling is rimfire will win.
Kim
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Michael Huebner
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Kim,

Kim,
So leave it to others. Exactly what I thought you would say.
Well Victoria will propose something (others) as you say. So you can sit back and critique that.
It will be what the Victorian Rimfire shooters as a collective want.
In Victoria we now have a CF and Rimfire Delegate something to think about.
The meeting has historically been at the Nationals which was for many years rimfire and centrefire.

You still think there is us and them which is a shame really.

Michael

BigStick
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You still think there is us and them which is a shame really.

If there wasn't a us and them then there would be only one HoF for all shooters.
Kim

robbycar
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Actually, there is one Hall of Fame

Anyone is welcome to enter with any caliber!

And since I don't see too many that qualified with a rimfire, it makes sense to me to propose something for rimfire.

Rob.

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chrisjon65
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Good point

Michael made a very good point .
Once again it’s us and them issue. As anyone would know the reason rimfire has larger numbers is because it a passive firearm and is shot in multiple ranges and on any weekend you can compete in many different club matches so I don’t understand why folks think there is more centre fire than rimfire
So to try and justify numbers as the issue is ridiculous. How about a few more rimfire shooters support centre fire. If the fly shooting fraternity didn’t arrive centrefire competition would be non existent.
In saying that I strongly believe that national and or state matters can be tabled at each coinciding events but seeing we are now in the 21st century all matters should be put on line and final decision making must be made using online voting .
Anyone unable to make these events should not be denied the right to vote on any matters tabled at these events .
One question I want to also ask is can someone act as a proxy on someone’s behalf to table a particular question if one is unable to attend .
I know everyone says it’s always been done this way or that way but come on folks we need to make matters for discussion more available and therefore voting on a larger scale.
My thoughts

Michael Huebner
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Proxy

Any matter, whether big or small can be brought up with your State Delegates.
If your State Delegates both can not attend the meeting then a proxy for the delegate can be nominated. All this needs to be done through your State Branch. The proxy can be given direction on what the State wishes are for the agenda items.
If the matters are considered serious enough then the vote goes to all shooters. If they are minor you should have faith in your State delegate that he will vote the right way. When votes are done it’s the majority number wins.

Discussions are held online amongst the Chairman and delegates prior to the National meeting to ensure this meeting doesn’t go for an extended period as predominantly we are there to compete.

The reason I made the post as agenda items have been called for by the Chairman. So now the time to discuss with your State Delegates any concerns etc

There is know reason why not in the last 12 months that clubs or disciplines could not have run a meeting to get feedback or ask for agenda items.

There is nil point complaining on a forum if you have not made an approach to your State Delegates. Whether it is an individual or a collective group want something it doesn’t really matter, tell your Delegates

If you don’t talk to them then there will be nil agenda items.

So that is basically the process

Michael

phil
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Exactly Michael, Well said.

Exactly Michael, Well said.

22 tech
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Stick together

"How about a few more rimfire shooters support centrefire."
Last time the centerfire nationals were in WA i volunteered a few days to help on the target crew. It was an interesting experience to see how you guys go about things & was worth the 3 hour round trip each day.
Even though we sometimes disagree it's important to for all disciplines to stick together as challenges are thrown at
shooting in general. A divided sport wont be a strong one.
You can feel a bit left out when the meetings are so far away & not easy for all to attend, but there is a structure in place & if you don't use it you aren't going to be heard. Being organized early is key.
I would support the online vote idea although it's more work to set that up.
Peter Oliver

chrisjon65
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Joining together

I suppose all benchrest shooting disciplines need to determine where they want to be in 20 years .
Short range centrefire benchrest is slowly disappearing as availability of matches diminishes due to most SSAA ranges chosing range attendances over competitions. Another more alarming issue is aging population of its competitors that’s really the reality of it and these older folks don’t have the time or as much energy as they once had to drag themselves all over the countryside setting up and organising large registered matches.
Rimfire has a huge senior and junior following and with such a large number of ranges and associations as well as Olympic shooting promoting .22 rimfire it’s no wonder it’s growing steadily , which is fantastic to see .
Short range centrefire benchrest and other benchrest needs rimfire to encourage not discourage shooters to try centrefire shooting , to me it’s a natural progression and I am sure a lot of centrefire shooters started out shooting rimfire matches and I do believe top centrefire shooters are also top rimfire shooters so where’s the problem.
The only way to help all benchrest is to put benchrest shooters into positions where they can
Promote the sport from the inside and this needs 100% support and encouragement from all benchrest codes . Target shooters are apparently only 10% of the SSAA membership so one can see with such a little voice why we are getting nothing.

CHRIS-A
EXCELLENT POST CHRIS

Good thinking

ROCK1

michaeljp
Good post Chris,

Good post Chris,
And thats why Sydney BR shooters both CF and RF need to support the Colo range when it opens if we want
our sport to continue in the Sydney area. Rimfire have a few of ranges in the Sydney basin, but CF BR is left out in the cold by SSAA Sydney.

CHRIS-A
FOR every new range Two

FOR every new range Two ranges have been shutdown Is the ssaa doing anything to stop it

ROCK1

chrisjon65
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Ranges

Contact your local branch , contact your State benchrest committee members and ask why .
The centrefire nationals are coming up at Easter and that is where all the state deligates get together to discuss any issue we as the shooter have .
It is their responsibility to table any questions or proposals have . So please let them know .
Have a look at the old archive group shooting results on this website.
There were a few matches where competitor numbers were high but on average it was around the 25 to 35 compeditors per match .
Now have a look at how many of them are still shooting today and how many have even passed away.
In reality Benchrest needs to start a again . Do I know how ? No I don’t, but maybe going over the same old ideas isn’t the answer.
First thing is think of benchrest as benchrest , all benchrest disciplines need to bury the hatchets and attack SSAA as a single group not seperately .
If all target shooters fire their rounds at the same time then ssaa would have to listen.
My thoughts.
Maybe couple of private benchrest summits where a couple of representives from each discipline get together, table their respective groups issue and try and sought it out as a group, with positive attitude about setting things back on track with no bitching and hair pulling .
Maybe it will work and maybe it won’t . Maybe it’s all been done before and failed.
There’s no harm trying it again with maybe fresh ideas but could be start .
As a group we have to have a sensible strategy and plan to take to SSAA , not just random winging and moaning .

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